How Candace Owens Left Reality

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What is the background of Candace Owens and her rise to fame?

Unknown 0:00
But I wanted to cover this because I just, it's really fake and gay. And I am actually an expert on all matters that are fake and gay.
Matt Bernstein 0:13
Did you see that 10 people in France were convicted and like jailed under cyberbullying laws for transvestigating Bridget McCrone?
Taylor Lorenz 0:23
Yes, I covered this. And I think it's insane.
Matt Bernstein 0:27
Yeah, France doesn't fuck around with online transvestigations.
Taylor Lorenz 0:31
Take your wins where you can is what, yeah. I know it's bad. We shouldn't want those laws in place, but the people that they're going after are not very sympathetic. You're going to French jail, which I wonder what that's like. Eating baguettes.
Matt Bernstein 0:48
Dear listener, my brain processes Candace Owens the way it does a skin rash that you tried to ignore for a while, hoping it would go away on its own. After all, itchy, inflamed patches crop up all the time. You're not going to go to the dermatologist every time one happens, especially not with these new insurance premiums. Hey!

How did Candace Owens transition from liberal to conservative views?

Matt Bernstein 1:11
Okay, I'm just trying to cope. I'm just trying to cope with my increased premiums that I just learned about. All right. But now you've been living with this rash for a long time, and it hasn't faded, just keeps getting bigger, more annoying, more harmful. Ignoring it is no longer an option. It's time to go to the dermatologist. And by that, I do mean time for a podcast episode. Hello, hello, and welcome back to A Bit Fruity. You probably already have a million thoughts about Candace Owens as we arrive into this episode. And if you're just learning about her for the first time, that's okay too, and I'm sorry. But let's start with the facts. Candace Owens uploads a podcast episode five days a week, And each episode averages three to five million downloads between YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and the like, putting her at a higher daily reach than Fox News, CNN and MSNBC combined.
Matt Bernstein 2:10
She has a level of fame that even watching from afar kind of terrifies me. I'm resistant to the idea that anyone should have this much power, and especially someone who's demonstrably as untethered from reality as Candace Owens is.

What controversies surround Candace Owens and her conspiracy theories?

Matt Bernstein 2:26
Over the years, Candace brought tons of people into MAGA. More recently, she's also brought tons of people away from MAGA, but not necessarily to a better place, put a pin in that. She's gone from liberal to conservative to what I would describe now as like full-on digital cult leader. And as Candice Land, I thought that was funny, like Candyland. As Candice Land gets more confusing for those of us who look away from it, her audience and influence only grows. and her conspiratorial rebrands keep drawing unsuspecting people into the fold. Like, when I announced this episode, many of you sent me messages that your siblings, who might not identify as conservative or even political, have become avid Candace Owens fans.
Matt Bernstein 3:11
So today I want to demystify this 36-year-old who's built an underworld much, much, much bigger than herself, but is also at the same time just a girl from Connecticut. And to do that, I am so excited to welcome back Taylor Lorenz to the podcast. Taylor... I talk a lot on this podcast about figures that become my fixations, my sort of like obsessions that I'm not proud of. The most notable example of this was Deborah Messing, who for like a really long time, I was just unable to look away from, even as she was going down this Zionist spiral that like nobody else really paid attention to or cared about because she hadn't made work. And multiple decades, but it's neither here nor there. I feel like Candice is this person for you.

How does Candace Owens utilize social media to influence her audience?

Matt Bernstein 4:00
When I reached out about making this episode, you straight up were like, yes, let's do it. I watch Candice Owens every single night.
Taylor Lorenz 4:08
Yeah. I'm also just another girl from Connecticut. I grew up literally five minutes away from Candace, although I think she was a freshman when I was a senior in high school. We went to rival high schools. I mean, I've become so fascinated with her because I think she's emblematic of like so many things in digital culture. And I go through phases. I always watch a lot of right-wing content to keep tabs.

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