Matt Bernstein

Like an anti-woman, anti-me too.

We don't actually need like, you know, rules and regulations around sexual harassment in the workplace.

This has all gone too far.

Fascinatingly, echoing some sentiments from her blog post from Degree 180 10 years earlier.

This was the point that I started hearing something that I hear a lot now, which is people being like, I've never agreed with Candace Owens, but she has some points.

I want to ask you to talk to that type of person, though, like, in good faith.

Because they are falling for reactionary rhetoric, but also, like, I don't want them to.

Which has, I would argue, left you more susceptible to like anything else conservatives say.

We just took a two second break and Taylor opened her phone and it was Candace.

You're so fucked.

Candace's latest act is I think she's understood.

I mean, she definitely can understand those viewership numbers.

And she knows that tapping into something a little more pop cultural and like a little more conspiratorial.

a little more out there than just like commenting on the political news of the day is what her audience wants and what's growing it.

So she's continued with celebrity stuff, but it's just gotten off the rails.

So this is the point where I kind of lose my ability to understand what the hell she's talking about anymore.

But we're so lucky to be joined on this podcast today by someone who who's kept up with it every single day.

I was at a wine night with a couple gay guys, and one of them, this guy that I've known for years, was like, have you seen Candace Owens' Bridget McCrone transvestigation?

And I was like, I don't look at that.

Again, back to the top of the episode, that is a rash that I'm avoiding acknowledging.