Matt Fradd

And they're like, my guy crushed you.

Right?

Religion.

Bringing Christians into submission.

If that's how you think Islam should work and then you watch a debate where you or these other fellas school your guy, that can't be, that's gotta be embarrassing.

Because I've heard from David that that's why he takes more of the aggressive approach.

But us Christians are like... Oh, he's right.

Trent Horn released a video yesterday where he praised you for your debating tactics.

I don't know if you saw it or not.

Yeah, well, his point was attacking ideas, attacking stupid faiths like Mormonism or Islam.

or modern-day Judaism.

I'm all for that as well.

But to attack people like, as he says, a 12-year-old screaming into the Xbox headset is not at all what we're called to do.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I think it's kind of like authority, right?

Like the man who has authority and knows he has it, he doesn't get worked up.

Exactly.

And he can speak forcefully, but he doesn't kind of get shrill.

It's like the times in my own life when I've got shrill or have acted out of emotion, even when that emotion was like anger, it's precisely because I don't think I have authority or I'm afraid I don't have the authority I wish I had.