Matt Gaetz

And when Gavin Newsom stole those congressional seats with Prop 50 in California...

It was an effective exercise of power, and I think voters may reward him for that.

Someone else in the Democratic Party who wants to be president told me that it was actually Kamala Harris who has reignited the prospects of Gavin Newsom.

If they had just run Biden and lost, they would have never gone back to another straight white guy.

But rolling out Harris and the embarrassment that that was has people thinking, well, you know, maybe we don't want to try this again.

Well, that in essence is an indictment of Harris because Harris could not have an extended intelligent conversation about anything.

And so just getting over the most basic of hurdles to be able to string sentences together was this great display of talent in the Democratic Party.

And he'll say anything.

But look at what they've been through, right?

Joe Biden never did extended discussions.

Harris never did extended discussions.

So he was giving the base at least some viewpoint into his thinking on things.

So do you think Gavin will be the nominee?

Right now, I would say so.

I think that AOC is going to make a compelling run, and I think she will be formidable as well.

You really do?

If Bernie really does the handoff.

Bernie has this kind of goofy professor persona, but in reality, Bernie's a deeply selfish person.

He's selfish.

Yeah.