Matt Gorniak

We're going to exit much higher than that, above 10 this year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's do it.

I'm amazed how much you can compact into this.

This is great, Nathan.

Yeah, I mean, there's actually, as you met my business partner, Goddard Ebel, and there's actually a couple of us who've done companies together, led by him, you know.

Anyway, but there's actually two threads, you know, G2, as you spoke to him was, I won't go deep into that, but that was more like scratching an itch of like, hey, how come this is happening this way?

And I know you're really keen on the entrepreneurial stories.

And that's one of those like, wow, why is this not fixed?

Why is this not fixed?

But there's another thread in parallel as we like to build companies, which is company big machines got sold to Oracle and Steelbrick to Salesforce.

Those were basically product configuration companies.

So kind of like, how do you sell complex products?

And that's kind of where 3Kit falls in.

TaylorMade, let's say.

TaylorMade golf drivers.

Let me give you the insight of what happened to us because I find the best ideas come from seeing things.

I also talk to entrepreneurs and

And ideally, it's something you have an understanding of, right?