Matt Iglesias

You're allowed to come on a student visa, right? And then, yeah, like people get into relationships, particularly people with employment-based visas, are often here for many, many years before they get a green card. And there's never been a political controversy about that that I'm familiar with.

You're allowed to come on a student visa, right? And then, yeah, like people get into relationships, particularly people with employment-based visas, are often here for many, many years before they get a green card. And there's never been a political controversy about that that I'm familiar with.

And it's quite—I mean, they really don't like immigrants, at least some of the people behind this policy, in a more extreme way than the president's official position. And I think they're signifying that. And, you know, people should— rightly read into that something, I think, a little bit menacing about the ultimate intention.

And it's quite—I mean, they really don't like immigrants, at least some of the people behind this policy, in a more extreme way than the president's official position. And I think they're signifying that. And, you know, people should— rightly read into that something, I think, a little bit menacing about the ultimate intention.

I think that Trump has basically won this argument. You know, that he has gotten—I shouldn't actually say Trump, because in a lot of ways, Greg Abbott was more like the key figure here— But like got Democrats to admit that like they in fact think it is undesirable to have sort of unlimited quantities of people arriving in their jurisdictions in an irregular manner.

I think that Trump has basically won this argument. You know, that he has gotten—I shouldn't actually say Trump, because in a lot of ways, Greg Abbott was more like the key figure here— But like got Democrats to admit that like they in fact think it is undesirable to have sort of unlimited quantities of people arriving in their jurisdictions in an irregular manner.

And, you know, to an extent, I think that was always reflected in some of Biden administration policy. But it only very much at the end became what they would say they were trying to do. The interesting question for Trump, I mean, and I think people who win elections face this divide all the time, is like, do you want to make the most durable policy change that you can?

And, you know, to an extent, I think that was always reflected in some of Biden administration policy. But it only very much at the end became what they would say they were trying to do. The interesting question for Trump, I mean, and I think people who win elections face this divide all the time, is like, do you want to make the most durable policy change that you can?

Or do you want to kind of have fights about things? Because I think clearly if the president of the United States— really, really, really wants to shine a spotlight on birth tourism and say, like, we need a bipartisan legislative solution to create some kind of denaturalization process for egregious abuses of this, whatever it is. I think it's like tough.

Or do you want to kind of have fights about things? Because I think clearly if the president of the United States— really, really, really wants to shine a spotlight on birth tourism and say, like, we need a bipartisan legislative solution to create some kind of denaturalization process for egregious abuses of this, whatever it is. I think it's like tough.

for like swing state Democrats, for anybody, for me, for you, for anybody to say like, no, birth charism is amazing. Like we want to encourage this, right? The more things you stack onto the pile, the easier it is for everybody to say no, right? That like we're going to basic 14th Amendment principles.

for like swing state Democrats, for anybody, for me, for you, for anybody to say like, no, birth charism is amazing. Like we want to encourage this, right? The more things you stack onto the pile, the easier it is for everybody to say no, right? That like we're going to basic 14th Amendment principles.

We're talking about people on completely normal work visas have all sort of been lumped into this. It's really easy for Democrats to reject this order the way it's been written because it's so, so, so broad. But that also means that Republicans can have a fight about the order, right? They can pick the strong cases. Democrats can pick the weak cases. Nothing will get done.

We're talking about people on completely normal work visas have all sort of been lumped into this. It's really easy for Democrats to reject this order the way it's been written because it's so, so, so broad. But that also means that Republicans can have a fight about the order, right? They can pick the strong cases. Democrats can pick the weak cases. Nothing will get done.

I think they'll just lose in court. I mean, the constitutional argument they're going with here is risible, in my opinion.

I think they'll just lose in court. I mean, the constitutional argument they're going with here is risible, in my opinion.

This is just a topic that has been litigated, like, a lot over the years.

This is just a topic that has been litigated, like, a lot over the years.

I know, but, like, I mean, Dara will correct me if I'm wrong. But, I mean, I think, like— Just like very literally, this question of what does it mean to be subject to the laws thereof has been litigated. This is not like a new version of an old question. It's like they want to arrest illegal immigrants, right?

I know, but, like, I mean, Dara will correct me if I'm wrong. But, I mean, I think, like— Just like very literally, this question of what does it mean to be subject to the laws thereof has been litigated. This is not like a new version of an old question. It's like they want to arrest illegal immigrants, right?