Matt Jones

I'm talking Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark.

Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing...

We get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing.

And we're still chasing it.

And we don't know when we've done enough.

Because people scoreboard watch.

Life becomes about wins and losses.

Steve Burns, Dustin Ross.

Because you find it important to be a good person while you're here on Earth?

Or are you a good person because you're afraid?

Because that's two different intentions, bro.

Absolutely.

And that's two different levels of trust.

I want you to just really be a good person.

Join me, Keir Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way.

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I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him.

On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon, Danny Trejo to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances.

This has been so much fun.

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