Matt Jones

They look like a way to try to grab ratings when this is supposed to be a very serious thing.

I think that's important.

The local police are not getting involved in those interactions, is that right?

But you're also not saying, though, he should have shot her.

No, I don't think he should have shot her.

You can say all those things and still say it was an overreaction by him.

Well, I don't mean the legal thing.

I actually think I have a legal background.

I actually think he probably would be hard to charge with a murder for a variety of reasons that aren't interesting.

But I think anyone, whether it's you or me or anyone listening, can have the sort of internal explanation of, okay, maybe he shouldn't be criminally charged, but he didn't have to kill her.

I mean, I feel like we're all qualified to make that judgment.

Does that make sense?

I completely agree with 90% of what you said there.

I do think the other reason he's not going to be charged is because it's not even being investigated.

I mean, they're intentionally not wanting to ask these questions that we've talked about.

You wrote in your article –

about the ice the ice agents they have an unfortunate tendency to look and act like high school bullies cosplaying as authority figures men who could meet neither the physical nor intellectual requirements to become real soldiers or real cops living out their fantasies of wearing a mask waving a gun and then yelling at people to do what they say

I do think a lot of these videos we see look like that.

Why do you think that happens?

Why do you think we have this situation where it's almost like a cartoon version of authority?