Matt Kielty
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And so he finds this Catholic priest who's also a therapist who starts to ask him questions like, Tell me how you see the world, John.
The first time someone's relating to him.
It was these therapy sessions with this Catholic priest that would kind of crack John open and send him down a new path that would eventually lead him to this place called
I mean, if you're a fan of Mad Men, that's where Donald Draper ends up at the end of Mad Men.
That's where the future was born, really, Esalen.
Is this place in Big Sur in California.
With unbelievable natural beauty.
Mitch, like John, spent a lot of time there.
And if you can just imagine like this big mid-century house on a cliff overlooking the ocean, that's Hesselin.
And there are these amazing hot mineral baths right on the edge of these cliffs.
There are these baths so you had to get in naked.