Matt Livers

There was every indication in there that there was a problem. When people confess accurately... I mean, the resistance you have from somebody who is innocent, the resistance you have from somebody who is guilty, from an interrogator standpoint, looks the same. But at the point at which they finally get over that moral hump and say, you know, you're right, I really did do this.

There was every indication in there that there was a problem. When people confess accurately... I mean, the resistance you have from somebody who is innocent, the resistance you have from somebody who is guilty, from an interrogator standpoint, looks the same. But at the point at which they finally get over that moral hump and say, you know, you're right, I really did do this.

At that point, you can't shut them up. They then have to morally justify, okay, I killed my wife because she was cheating on me, and let me tell you what I did. And then they give you facts and information that you didn't know. I mean, that's how you verify it. Mm-hmm.

At that point, you can't shut them up. They then have to morally justify, okay, I killed my wife because she was cheating on me, and let me tell you what I did. And then they give you facts and information that you didn't know. I mean, that's how you verify it. Mm-hmm.

At that point, you can't shut them up. They then have to morally justify, okay, I killed my wife because she was cheating on me, and let me tell you what I did. And then they give you facts and information that you didn't know. I mean, that's how you verify it. Mm-hmm.

With Matt Livers, what you had was, at the point at which he makes the baby step portion of his interrogation, they then asked that open-ended question, so tell me what happened, Matt. I don't remember.

With Matt Livers, what you had was, at the point at which he makes the baby step portion of his interrogation, they then asked that open-ended question, so tell me what happened, Matt. I don't remember.

With Matt Livers, what you had was, at the point at which he makes the baby step portion of his interrogation, they then asked that open-ended question, so tell me what happened, Matt. I don't remember.

Number one, you had two lead investigators who had never done first-degree murder cases before this one as lead investigators. Number two, having made the arrests, holding the press conference, they were committed to trying to build a case against Livers and Samson. And then when Reed and Fester showed up, I think it was just beyond their ability to comprehend that they had made a mistake.

Number one, you had two lead investigators who had never done first-degree murder cases before this one as lead investigators. Number two, having made the arrests, holding the press conference, they were committed to trying to build a case against Livers and Samson. And then when Reed and Fester showed up, I think it was just beyond their ability to comprehend that they had made a mistake.

Number one, you had two lead investigators who had never done first-degree murder cases before this one as lead investigators. Number two, having made the arrests, holding the press conference, they were committed to trying to build a case against Livers and Samson. And then when Reed and Fester showed up, I think it was just beyond their ability to comprehend that they had made a mistake.

And so that somehow, someway, they needed to fold Reed and Fester's cross-country crime jaunt into somehow having some contact with the Nebraska people, whoever they were.

And so that somehow, someway, they needed to fold Reed and Fester's cross-country crime jaunt into somehow having some contact with the Nebraska people, whoever they were.

And so that somehow, someway, they needed to fold Reed and Fester's cross-country crime jaunt into somehow having some contact with the Nebraska people, whoever they were.

I think there's some relief at the same time some hurt.

I think there's some relief at the same time some hurt.

I think there's some relief at the same time some hurt.

I was already fired up, and yes, I have a grudge to settle.

I was already fired up, and yes, I have a grudge to settle.

I was already fired up, and yes, I have a grudge to settle.