Matt Lodder

Like laser technology in particular has made removing tattoos easier.

So I think a lot of people...

Particularly younger people have been treating tattoos as more temporary than perhaps they should have done.

And I see a lot of people online in their 20s and early 30s posting that they're getting laser tattoo treatment and it's not working or it's taking a long time or it's really painful or really expensive.

And so I think maybe as those stories get out there, people will become a bit more cautious about getting visible tattoos again, because that sense of impermanence has led to a rise of facial and hand tattooing, which...

he's a little bit worrying.

As you said, it kind of moseys along.

Tattooing's been called a kind of passing fad for over 150 years, and it's been part of human culture for five, at least, thousand years old, and it's not gone anywhere yet.

So there'll always be tattooed people around, and there'll always be non-tattooed people around, and the numbers of those two halves will kind of wax and wane a bit.

But yeah, it's here to stay.

Yeah, you can't really get the blur out, but you can kind of get touch up and you can kind of, you can kind of go over it again and you can, you can put one color over the top of another and you can kind of tidy things up quite a lot.

Yeah, man, I always say, you know, and part of my work and part of what I try and do is like show you what's going on beneath clothing and behind shop doors.

Because you're right, it is a very sort of secretive and closed world even today, but certainly historically.

But there's been a lot more going on behind a lot more closed doors and underneath a lot of sleeves than I think people realize, you know.

And it's a real pleasure to be able to talk to people like yourself and get that information out there because, yeah,

You never know what might be lurking underneath someone's shirt sleeves.

Have a lovely day.