Matt Mahan

I think we should lay that out.

But I just visited a modular construction factory, factory-built housing.

They can bring down the cost per unit by 20%, speed up overall project timelines by up to 50% by just industrializing the production of housing.

So we need to pull the cost down.

We should be able to drop the cost on a per square foot basis by at least a third with

actions that are within our control as regulators.

A bit of both.

I mean, the governor has certain levers that are very powerful, driving the budget process.

There's the veto, the bully pulpit, just kind of naming and shaming is really powerful.

Executive orders, the appointments.

I mean, the governor appoints 3,000 people who run

all of these commissions that have incredible discretion over how to implement regulations.

But there's no doubt that ultimately you need the legislative branch to change.

And I think that a lot of Democratic legislators, many of whom I know personally in private, will admit that things are broken, that things aren't working.

There just hasn't been that willingness publicly to name what is going on, say that the system's broken, the incentives are completely backwards.

I think, you

As governor, I'd be in a position to change the conversation, help either persuade existing legislators to think differently or elect different legislators.

Well, it's hard to step out on a limb without knowing if you're going to have support for it.

It is difficult to just go direct to voters in an environment where money talks.

It's a very large state.