Matt Mahan

It's expensive to deliver a message.

Social media has lowered barriers.

That's part of my bet is that we can go straight to the voters with this message and get traction around around the truth or how what it takes to actually solve our problems.

But it's it's

You know, I understand why people go with the sure thing.

And it's not fun to be labeled.

They will call you everything when you fight for change.

You're a corporate sellout.

You're racist.

You're whatever.

I mean, there's always some label that people will ascribe when you try to fight for change.

But I try to stay laser focused on that.

real world outcomes, housing costs, energy costs, quality of schools, public safety, the things that people care about in neighborhoods like the one I grew up in.

That has to be the North Star.

Yeah.

What causes homelessness?

It's a big question.

There are a few things.

I mean, one, you can't ignore our broken housing market because in places where housing is cheap and widely available, you can have high rates of addiction and mental illness and most people can remain indoors.

even with those challenges.