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Matt Mahan

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1833 total appearances

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Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

He and I disagreed over Prop 36, over recovery housing.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

There've been other policy disagreements we've had.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

Prop 36 was a ballot measure that passed overwhelmingly a couple of years ago.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

In fact, it was about a 70 to 30 vote ratio in support.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

It passed in every county in California.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

And it essentially brought some accountability back to our drug courts.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

It did a couple of things.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

One, it enhanced the punishments around retail theft, organized retail theft, which is important.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

But the other component that I was most interested in

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

was how we actually bring balance back to the criminal justice system when it comes to drug use.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

We went from a period of over-incarceration where our jails and prisons became the place where addicts and folks dealing with mental illness were being housed, not rehabilitating them and at great expense to taxpayers.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

Obviously, that system was broken, but we over-corrected and ended up with our streets and our emergency rooms

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

being just kind of this revolving door and not really helping people either.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

And so what 36 does is it allows a DA to bring charges and a judge to ultimately sentence someone with what's called a treatment mandated felony, which simply says, if you're on your third serious drug offense, like you're using meth in the park and the kids can no longer use the playground, you can be given a choice between treatment and incarceration.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

So it brings a consequence back

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

acknowledging the immense societal impacts of things like public drug use that then often lead to trespassing, vandalism, retail theft, and all of these other impacts.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

And look, the state has refused to fund it.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

It's one of the first things I would do as governor is make sure that we properly fund Prop 36 and get people into treatment.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

I think that's why, you know, again, I'm hesitant to speak for Governor Newsom or any other elected.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

They can speak for themselves.