Matt Mahan

in our institutions of higher learning.

You know, we spend so much time deconstructing everything and understanding the full history of the failures of government that we've sort of lost our ability to just act and solve basic problems.

Yeah, we're doing a debate or forum every few days.

I'm doing a lot of interviews, a lot of travel, going to different communities around the state and talking about the challenges people face, but also...

offering hope saying, here's the things we're doing that are working in a place like San Jose.

And here's what I think we can do to improve our schools, make our cities safer, build more housing.

So just a lot of conversations through different formats.

Well, thanks for having me, Sam.

I really enjoyed the conversation.

It's an honor to be on your pod.

I've listened for years, so it's great to actually be sitting here with you.

Well, I promise to look at it, all right?

That's your organized interest.