Matt McCusker

in the car fucking like here we go um and do you have a protocol for how to stop yeah i mean for again it was like luckily during covid i i had already been interested in all the psychology and stuff but like once everything kind of like slowed to a halt i kind of all i had to do really was my podcast so in between i would like we were living in field paint that is like hard like fucking what i gotta get there 10 minutes before

for uh the doing the podcast would you pretend it was a hardship no because there's a point no there was a point at covid where we just did it like zoom so we were like shane was traveling we just did zoom so like all i had to do was go to my basement and do that for like a couple hours a week but i would sit in my basement i did a ton of research and reading and like i really used that time and like for a psychological reason yeah i got real into that and i was doing a thing on for your own or just general and then i tried i had this whole idea i tried to start like a

online version of not necessarily AA, but like peer led kind of, um, you know, like fellowship, fellowship or like emotional type stuff where people like just take information I was reading and kind of like, like, Hey, this is this.

And then let people kind of chat, you know, I did do it for a while and I kind of liked it.

What, what, tell me about that.

What, what, what was it?

i i had a thing it was i called it psych no that was the name of it psych and all yeah psych no like a psychology but like it's like name people say jokes like psych no i'm just kidding oh god but it was psych doesn't like psychology but the so i want i had this whole idea where i was like if aa works where you can take a bit you know you take it where people help each other with like addiction stuff that's also a lot of psychology stuff it should work for people who aren't necessarily alcoholics right but also just have regular problems yeah but that's the issue is what is the

It's just like yeah life So it has a problem.

There was nothing.

There's not a centralized thing to organize it So I you know I tried and I still like it's still there's still a discord where people use it and there's like a daily Meditation and all that stuff where people go and they do it together.

It's kind of nice But I had your memory lives on

Yeah, I had grandiose dreams for it.

I was like, I'm going to take down the idea of therapy altogether.

I have a bad case of, like, you know, railroad tycoon brain, like, and then that'll happen, and it'll change the whole thing.

Tweets get me.

Yeah, and I'll be like, this tweet's going to change the entire discourse, and it's just like, yeah, nobody likes it.

And no one's ever going to be the same.

It was like a Zoom chat where we would just, like, talk.

I would, like, either talk about something I read and anyone could just... It was pretty loose.

I was my problem I can never nail down a format, but I did base it loosely on like the Like acceptance and commitment therapy on the 48 laws of power.