Matt McCusker

But I will say, to answer the question, it's like...

You know, there's a book I read.

It's called Money and the Meaning of Life.

And the thing the guy says, it's kind of blunt.

He's like, hey, you don't know what money can't buy until you can't buy it.

You got to have enough money to know what money can't buy.

And it's like, you know, OK, fair enough.

But when they look at you and go, yeah, but you have like you can be really miserable with a lot of money.

Totally possible.

It's like that's not even debatable.

that's also a weird place to be in and it's like there are the intangibles that kind of define your life and happiness whether you have money or don't have money or whatever you know podcast that's doing well where like that stuff doesn't touch the other stuff like the material success doesn't touch there's an area that cannot touch and never will touch

And, you know, the material success helps hugely where you can kind of chill.

You're not, you know, you have like a boss riding down your back all the time.

So that's a massive W in terms of like how you feel every day.

But it's not everything.

At least for me, it's not.

And, you know, so they go hand in hand, man.

And it's also like...

You know, I've... You can also, with material success, you know, crash into, you know, like, figuratively or literally, like, crash pretty badly.

So it's like, you know, it goes in tandem, because it's like...