Matt Murphy

I mean, I prepared that cross for years.

And you have to be prepared to—I think the journalism term is—

Kill your puppies.

You have to be prepared to abandon the story that you're in love with if the truth leads you someplace else.

You have to do the same thing with cross-examination.

You have to be able to put aside every note you've made, all your careful preparation when you get a moment like that.

Because that's how you win trials, I think.

Yeah, the last the last moment in that, you know, I gave him one last chance.

I got a I got a like a topographical topographical map and I put it up and I had a marker for him.

And we had a search and rescue team out staged during his cross examination in the desert.

And I don't know if you have that photo that is.

Actually, I don't think I put it on.

I should have sent this to you.

There's one where they were out there for two days and they were sitting in the cold and they were waiting.

And what I love about it is the cadaver dog that we had was named Karma.

And they're all waiting.

And it's like, okay, Ed, here you go.

Here's his family.

Here's a Sharpie.

Here's the map.