Matt Murphy

Right.

And Al is arguing about what you know, some something that he thought should go in in an envelope or something stupid, not stupid by having something unimportant.

And and so Al and I are kind of mixing it up a tad.

And Zane comes out after the jury been back about, you know, 30 minutes just getting settled.

And he kind of comes out.

He's got this really funny look on his face.

He goes out.

He goes, I don't think it matters, buddy.

It's like they don't even want to see the exhibits.

They're asking for verdict forms already.

So, yeah, you knew that was a good sign.

That's yeah, that's a great sign.

And look, as a DA, my plan was I was going to do this for like three years, learn how to try cases and then go make money in some civil firm someplace.

And the longer you remain a DA, the easier.

the more interesting it gets.

And then pretty soon you're doing the serious stuff and then you're doing felonies and then you get your own investigator.

And then, you know, for me, I was 34 years old and I'm doing murder cases and I'm walking through murder scenes.

And what becomes really addictive for you as a prosecutor, if your career and you're dedicated to it, is you get families like the Smiths.

And Paul came to me after the verdict

And I will never forget the sensation that his wife was lovely.