Matt Murphy

And I'm sure that, you know, the gal behind the counter had no idea what she had just handed us.

And so anyway, then we went over to Radio Shack to buy a little device to hook up to a recorder because we always kept a couple of recorders in the trunk of our cars.

Because we use these many times on cases, we'd give them to a victim or a witness and see if they could get the guy to talk to them.

And so we retrieved a recorder out of my trunk along with like 10 tapes and some batteries.

And then we went to Radio Shack, which was nearby, and Brock bought the connecting unit that would go to her phone.

And the recorder itself showed her how to use it.

And as he's showing her how to use it, the phone rings and Brock, he goes, gosh, that's Scott's number right there.

So she's looking at us like, take the call.

And so she took the call.

And that was like the first recorded conversation.

And and it was just it was just very interesting.

And this is the one thing that I don't understand why this case was so popular with everybody, because we had many other murders that were actually more to me, more interesting than this one.

Although this one had, you know, TV quality victim and, you know, responsible in it.

You know, I mean, definitely the made for TV cast on this one, other than the detectives, of course.

But when it came to this, it was just, gosh, we're here working this thing.

Everybody's looking at this and it's just another Modesto murder.

You know, I mean, it's important to us.

It's important to the family.

But it was kind of.

it was just difficult to believe how it was getting so much attention.