Matt Murphy

Yeah, she started taping him.

Gosh, I think that was.

Well, it was right around that same time because it was within a week of the 24th.

So it was the recorded call for New Year's Eve.

Yeah, that was right after we had met her.

OK, because it's unbelievable for several days.

You know, it's like, gosh, is there nothing wrong with this guy?

And, you know, other than his limited cooperation, we're thinking, well, maybe he didn't do it.

And, you know, but, you know, we're still working.

even though we were working him, Craig and Al and I, you know, we weren't the only ones working this case.

There were a lot of other detectives that were working on this, you know, detectives that were clearing out sex registrants and parolees that had violent criminal pasts that could be good for this and verifying their alibi and stuff like that.

And of course, as you guys, as you paid more attention to this case and it became bigger and

Anybody that we looked at, you know, they wanted to be away from this thing big time.

They did not want to be involved in this.

They did not want to be linked to this as being in any way possibly related to Lacey's murder.

So the cooperation level that we got from a lot of people that ordinarily probably wouldn't have cooperated with us, probably wouldn't like us because we were cops, was a little bit different this time.

And that was one of the good things that the media brought to us that made things easier in some ways, but in other ways, not so much.

Yeah.

Let me do a quick correction for you on that.

Actually, she didn't see any of the coverage.