Matt Murphy

Yeah, well, that brings up two points.

Number one, I had heard that her her lack of coming forward with that information on the juror questionnaire was that she was the victim of a threat from a boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

And she didn't see that as domestic violence.

Now, there may be more to it than that, but that's what I had originally heard.

Yeah.

And then, of course, when it comes to the death penalty thing, I'm not a huge death penalty guy because I think it's been 17 years since California has carried one out.

So to even try somebody on a death penalty seems to be kind of a placebo.

They're not going to get the needle.

They're probably going to die in custody.

I would rather have more flexibility in jury selection without a death penalty case than

So maybe you get a good juror that just doesn't want to do a death penalty thing, but they can be fair about it.

To me, that's a better way to go, because I just my personal feeling is the death penalty in California is kind of a joke.

Yeah, it doesn't.

They're not serious about it.

Well, San Quentin Prison is a very interesting place.

It's got an enormously interesting culture and heritage.

It's not a very pleasant place.

It's frightening even to us when you go there when you're a cop and you go into one of the prisons for an interview or whatever you have to do up there.

It's a scary atmosphere.

It's interesting.