Matt Spiegel

Yeah, we've been discussing it.

Mm-hmm.

No, I'm interested in the Colson Loveland aspect of everything, really, because of the way he came on strong after.

Remember, he was hurt.

Part of last season.

And what he did the back half.

Yes.

And so, like, they were behind schedule coming out of training camp.

And so when they actually got up to board back half of the season, and I don't know, Caleb Williams took off.

That's not a coincidence.

What about the connection that you had with Caleb by the end of the season do you think allowed you to have the playoffs that you did and kind of the back half of the season that you did?

Layla, here's why this almost brought me that single solitary tear down my cheek.

Do you remember where they were the year prior?

Do you remember where they were a year prior?

And so for him to discuss it...

and to remark on it as succinctly as he just did, you forget.

It's not that you forget.

You block out sometimes Caleb Williams' rookie season and everything that went wrong.

And when you hear a rookie who obviously did not partake in that season, doesn't know anything about what happened the year before he arrived as a Chicago Bear, as a guy with high expectations is not only a first round pick, but the first tight end taken off the board.

Yes.