Matt Walsh

I'm still...

What I'm saying is no different than what I said a month ago.

I haven't changed.

I don't think the situation has changed at all.

And I don't know why everything else has flipped.

I would say you're not...

I would say you're not on our side, you're not a conservative if you are not interested in conserving and preserving and defending Western civilization.

And I guess the one point I'll give in your favor, Drew and Ben, is that I do think that there are some people who claim to be conservatives who actually are not interested in conserving Western civilization at all.

And so if you don't want to conserve that, then we actually are fundamentally, because that's the thing I'm saying we need to unite to defend is Western civilization.

Right.

So for example, recently I've been talking about the Islamic takeover of Dearborn.

And I've had people who I guess claim to be conservatives who are trying to tell me that actually this is a very good thing, that our country becomes Islamic.

And it's like, okay...

We're clearly not on the same side.

You're trying to conserve Islamism, and that is not what I'm trying to conserve.

So obviously you get to a point where those, where it's like, yeah, lines are drawn.

And I think the line is that conserving and defending Western civilization.

And anyone who's on board with that and wants to do that, I think we should work together.

But if someone says...

I'm not interested.