Matt Willis

He was scared, you know?

And I made him do it, right?

And I'm...

Because I was like, oh, this is an important lesson.

Parenting's mad.

But I went into kind of like, this is a transformative moment for him.

I am going to fucking dad him to death.

You know, I'm going to like that.

And it was such a fucking wrong thing to do.

And now you think, why?

if he dived into a hoop or not he said who gives a shit you know like it wasn't a big deal you know and I was like it's now though yeah I bet it's now he said it's first thing that's going to come up in therapy for him you know I remember this time that daddy made me yeah daddy made me jump in the hoop I think that's a massive fear of water now because none of us will feel like we get it right guys I love that yeah

want to know who's coming up next hit follow wherever you get your podcast and you'll be the first to find out as soon as i started drinking i loved it from the very beginning i had a problem with it i could have died so many times there are so many things where if it had gone the other way it would have changed my life yeah forever because you've never talked about this i've never talked about this since i got sober it's been the most transformative thing that i've ever done

Do you know where we first met?

Okay.

Oh, right, okay.

I do remember it.

It was Imperial University.

Right.

It was, I think you were doing either DJing or it might have been your solo record.

We were literally so excited because you were like the first famous person we'd met.