Matt

It's hard.

It's hard.

And I, you, so is it like when you're, when you're recording, is it like, I guess, how do I ask this question? From a place of technique? Yeah. Do you have the song out and you're, like, writing it straight through with, like, Dan or Justin, whoever you're writing with? And then you can, like, play it on the piano altogether?

And I, you, so is it like when you're, when you're recording, is it like, I guess, how do I ask this question? From a place of technique? Yeah. Do you have the song out and you're, like, writing it straight through with, like, Dan or Justin, whoever you're writing with? And then you can, like, play it on the piano altogether?

Or are you going back and, like, revisiting different sections of the song? Because that one really feels like it's so many different things.

Or are you going back and, like, revisiting different sections of the song? Because that one really feels like it's so many different things.

Right.

Right.

And now you have two versions.

And now you have two versions.

Because the SoundCloud version remains.

Because the SoundCloud version remains.

And if that's the one you love and there'll be a third version when you come out and, you know, do it live.

And if that's the one you love and there'll be a third version when you come out and, you know, do it live.

Don't... But the thing is, even if they are or aren't mistakes, human beings are allowed to make them. Of course. And I think that, like, one thing that people just... Whether they can't reckon with it or they don't want to because, like, people feel complicit in it is it's, like...

Don't... But the thing is, even if they are or aren't mistakes, human beings are allowed to make them. Of course. And I think that, like, one thing that people just... Whether they can't reckon with it or they don't want to because, like, people feel complicit in it is it's, like...

It was like unprecedented how quickly it changed for you from here to here in terms of like the amount of eyes on you and the amount of mouths flapping in regards to what you did. So it's like even in a world where it's like we've seen people go from like whatever it is, like zero to 60 or overnight success, whatever that means. Not like this. Because I remember we were at Coachella.

It was like unprecedented how quickly it changed for you from here to here in terms of like the amount of eyes on you and the amount of mouths flapping in regards to what you did. So it's like even in a world where it's like we've seen people go from like whatever it is, like zero to 60 or overnight success, whatever that means. Not like this. Because I remember we were at Coachella.

We were so excited at Coachella because we were like, oh, and I was with a couple of gays who didn't know who you were yet. And that was, you know, April 2024. Yeah, it was a year ago. Meanwhile, at the end of that weekend, not only did everyone know who you were, but everyone had an opinion on you, et cetera.

We were so excited at Coachella because we were like, oh, and I was with a couple of gays who didn't know who you were yet. And that was, you know, April 2024. Yeah, it was a year ago. Meanwhile, at the end of that weekend, not only did everyone know who you were, but everyone had an opinion on you, et cetera.