Matt

Our kids have seen us argue.

There was a time in the car where we were not even arguing at all, but we were just talking about something.

We were getting, but I think it's good for them to see you disagree because then you show them how you resolve the conflict and then they learn conflict resolution from you.

Yeah, but sometimes.

But no, it was funny though because I think we've talked about this, but we were in the car and just getting passionate about something we were talking about and Augie thinks we're arguing.

He goes, be nice.

yeah we were like be nice dad dad be nice mama and we started busting out laughing making jokes yeah i thought that was so funny it's just because we were like getting loud next we have divorce is too normalized in 2026 what are you saying i'm saying i don't know i feel like i'm coming from such a place of like i'm so biased to the fact that like we have a good healthy marriage so you're gonna say agree

Yeah.

Well, I think, I think, yeah, to be, to be a devil's advocate, I think that we've been through terrible times in marriage.

I think we've experienced terrible things in marriage.

But, um, I think it's, uh, immature and like just simply untrue to like prescribe all those struggles to like your partner or the relationship.

Um, again, cause life is hard.

Marriage isn't hard.

It comes down to life being hard.

But yeah, I do think I, I don't know.

I would agree with that.

So it's like, yeah, there's people that have like pretty effed up marriages.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Emphasis on the professional help too.