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Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

He'd been going through a rough breakup, and when I floated the idea of getting out of town for a long weekend, he said yes before I'd even finished explaining.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

The original plan was simple.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

Leave Friday afternoon, drive down past Green River, cut off onto the BLM road somewhere between the San Rafael Swell and the Navajo Nation border, find a remote campsite, and spend two nights under stupidly bright stars.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

No crowds, no reservations, no rangers.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

Just us, a fire, and the kind of silence you can't get near the city.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

We weren't total idiots about it.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

We had extra water, a GPS, paper maps, first aid, radios, brand new tires on the truck.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

I'd camped a lot, and Ryan was almost annoyingly careful with safety.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

We even had a PLB, personal locator beacon, in case something went really sideways.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

Looking back, that almost makes it worse.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

We did everything right, and it still didn't matter.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

The first weird thing happened at a gas station.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

We stopped in Green River to top off, because there's this unspoken rule in the desert, if you see gas, you get gas.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

I went inside to grab some snacks and pay, and while Miguel was fawning over the beef jerky wall and Ryan was scoping out the cooler for drinks, I ended up in line behind this older guy.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

He looked like somebody had carved him out of the land around us.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

Weathered, dark skin, deep lines in his face, gray hair tied back under a sun-bleached hat.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

He had on a faded denim shirt with pearl snaps and dusty work pants, the kind of guy who could probably fix anything with bailing wire and duct tape.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

He glanced at the topo map rolled up under my arm and then at the jerry cans we were filling outside.

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

"'Y'all heading out past the highway?'

Just Creepy: Scary Stories
REAL Skinwalker Encounters That Will Keep You Awake Tonight

he asked, just sort of casual.