Matthew Cox

That's why if you look at all these albums right here, it says right here across the bottom, made in Italy.

But they were all produced in Italy because the Italians weren't going to pick up the phone and call the FBI.

And so now you had the ability to get the CDs manufactured on the one hand, but now we had a second problem.

How are we going to get the money to Italy?

So my buddy from Vegas discusses the matter with the guys in Vancouver.

The guy in Vancouver calls a guy in Hong Kong and says, hey, who do we got in Italy?

Oh, there's a 14K faction in Italy.

So then the 14K guy in Vancouver tells my buddy, hey, have your buddy in LA go drop off money to this guy in Orange County.

So essentially you've got a guy from Vegas, white guy, talking to a Chinese guy in Vancouver who's talking to a Chinese guy in Toronto, talking to a mob guy in Toronto, talking to a mob guy in Vegas or in Italy to arrange the production side.

Then it's a separate group with 14K guy in Vancouver talking to another Chinese guy in Hong Kong who says take the money to the Chinese in Orange County.

Me and my buddy drop off the money in Orange County.

They get the money in Italy.

Well, that's fake China.

The money never traveled.

And that's how we were able to get all these CDs made that ultimately caused quite a bit of problems.

What's another million dollars in fraud just in compact discs?

No, I was already in so much other trouble.

They didn't charge me for the cup like this.

They just let that go?

They let that go.