Matthew Cox

The guy in Vancouver calls a guy in Hong Kong and says, hey, who do we got in Italy?

Oh, there's a 14K faction in Italy.

So then the 14K guy in Vancouver tells my buddy, hey, have your buddy in LA go drop off money to this guy in Orange County.

So essentially you've got a guy from Vegas, white guy, talking to a Chinese guy in Vancouver who's talking to a Chinese guy in Toronto, talking to a mob guy in Toronto, talking to a mob guy in Vegas or in Italy to arrange the production side.

Then it's a separate group with 14K guy in Vancouver talking to another Chinese guy in Hong Kong who says take the money to the Chinese in Orange County.

Me and my buddy drop off the money in Orange County.

They get the money in Italy.

Well, that's fake China.

The money never traveled.

And that's how we were able to get all these CDs made that ultimately caused quite a bit of problems.

What's another million dollars in fraud just in compact discs?

No, I was already in so much other trouble.

They didn't charge me for the cup like this.

They just let that go?

They let that go.

The telecommunications fraud.

They let that go.

All right.

The counterfeit credit cards.

Well, that's actually happened.