Matthew Cox

He's doing everything right.

He did get in trouble for this or for that, but it becomes its own kind of a quagmire for your parents to be in the situation where they're like, fuck it.

Right.

Why did you figure on law school?

Why did you go to law school?

And so I feel like those are always kids of means though, for some reason, I always feel like, and I could be wrong, but I always feel like those are kids that have something to fall back on.

Like, you know, like they can, you can be a little bit more adventurous if you know, when things go wrong, I can always go back to my spare bedroom or I can always go to my parents for help, you know, that sort of thing.

I was just thinking that, boy, that field, that sounds familiar.

Where it's like, you know, I'm going to do what I want to do.

And if I get caught, I'll talk my way out of it.

And that works until you can't talk your way out of it.

And it hits, you know, bam, you find yourself in prison.

What law school?

Well, I, I always feel bad.

I was going to say there, you know, the, the jailhouse lawyers, like there are some of the guys that are amazing, phenomenal.

And then there, you know, and I always think to myself, like,

How many people's cases did you butcher until you got it right?

Oh, yeah.

There's that first 60 or 80 guys that, boy, those were horrible arguments.

None of that worked.