Matthew Cox

Like, you know, like they can, you can be a little bit more adventurous if you know, when things go wrong, I can always go back to my spare bedroom or I can always go to my parents for help, you know, that sort of thing.

I was just thinking that, boy, that field, that sounds familiar.

Where it's like, you know, I'm going to do what I want to do.

And if I get caught, I'll talk my way out of it.

And that works until you can't talk your way out of it.

And it hits, you know, bam, you find yourself in prison.

What law school?

Well, I, I always feel bad.

I was going to say there, you know, the, the jailhouse lawyers, like there are some of the guys that are amazing, phenomenal.

And then there, you know, and I always think to myself, like,

How many people's cases did you butcher until you got it right?

Oh, yeah.

There's that first 60 or 80 guys that, boy, those were horrible arguments.

None of that worked.

You didn't get the good.

Now you've been doing this for five years.

It's like now they have the arguments down.

They can write a motion.

But boy, those first few clients, it's not great.

Okay.