Matthew Cox

Go ahead.

Sorry.

Go ahead.

Okay, well, that's not criminal.

That's civil.

Right.

There's nothing on the books that says this is illegal, but there's nothing on the books that say it's necessarily legal.

Correct.

You can find similar devices that it has already been determined that it's legal,

to whatever, alter or allow them to have things downloaded.

For Androids, it's open.

For Apple, it's still open, although you do have to actually...

alter the programming to allow for downloads right and for certain things that are completely locked off like certain games because you can make money on games you can gain things like you can do things like that in certain games they're absolutely you're not allowed to alter anything within the game or allow downloads or change it in any way right and all of those have been determined but there's no real determination at this point for fire sticks

But they're saying, but they keep using the term jailbreak, jailbreak, jailbreak.

Right.

And as a result of that, they're saying, well, if we call it something that sounds nefarious, then we can make it appear that it's illegal.

And that's essentially where you were at.

And you said, I want to go to trial on this.

And your lawyer, of course, is saying, you gave me three grand.

Yeah.