Matthew Cox

And I hope that that's something we can talk about and that you can answer any additional questions as to why you made that poor choice when you went to that pay phone and made that phone call at 437 p.m.

And you just see this guy's eyes just light up.

He gave him not just you did it, but he also gave him a way out.

Yeah, yeah.

Patted him on the back a little bit.

And that's what I find as far as trying to elicit information from people is you've got to focus on the why.

Because we all have our choose our own adventure story in life.

And if you just focus on the why, you don't get the information.

So that and seeing the positive outcome there.

made me believe like, wow, communication is so important.

And growing up, my best friend had been deaf.

And for 30 years, when we have to communicate, I have to be completely present.

I have to look him in the eyes.

I learned sign language and trying to realize that it's not just the word you say, it's how you say the word.

And then it's how you look body language wise when you're saying the word.

And putting all that together is a true way to communicate.

And learning that from Doug, my best friend,

And then learning that from Bill and then seeing the polygraph examiners, the way we do polygraph in the Secret Service is we know that we're going to screw local resources all the time, investigative and more so protection.

So how can we get back to them?

We give back to them with things like polygraph.