Matthew Cox

To kind of like train them to not give up information.

nice now you're thinking you know she's like what are they gonna do what are they gonna do i'll apologize right like perfect yo yeah man anything i mean i'm just curious like what are some other ways that you like are trying to get information like would you give them like phishing links to like try to get their information or like what was that whole

I used to play an online game.

We stumbled across the phishing site and we had access to the back end.

And we would just send people, oh, yeah, go to this link to check this thing out for the game.

And they would go there thinking they're just going to, like, learn something new.

And they would click it, and then they'd get a pop-up saying they've been logged out.

And they'd log in, and they'd just send their information to, like, a notebook.

Every day they would pull up the notebook and have, like, 10 logins.

Yeah.

I've been thinking about like, okay, am I going to title this?

Boeing, AI, Trump, you know, all these different things.

I'm like, you know.

Sorry.

Oh, I remember this.

So he was basically worried that you might do something to him?

How'd you first meet Matt in prison?

What was your first impressions?

Or like, how'd you guys get connected?

Yeah.