Matthew Cox

I mean, that's just the tip of the iceberg as far as stories, but that was my first raid.

And it was very voluminous when you think about the amount of product, because usually you do a raid and you have 1,000 pieces, 2,000 pieces.

When you get 100,000, that's a big find.

Counterfeiting.

See, that's the interesting thing is that what we learned throughout the years is that, you know, the cops aren't going to stick these people in jail, you know, hardly.

I mean, I've done, I've done investigations on MS 13 members who selling me stolen goods, which is a whole other story, but you know, selling and selling me stolen goods who, uh, literally were just, uh,

just let out of jail the night before that should have been still in jail, you know, committing violent crimes and things like that.

So they're doing that to those folks, you know, I mean, guys are selling counterfeits and stuff, you know, they'll, they may have some restitution to pay, but where it really gets them is through a civil judgment.

And we've gotten people, I mean, we've taken people's houses, man.

I mean, like a guy, I remember one time I felt bad about all I was, was the

bring her a bad news.

You know, the client was the one that sued him.

And, you know, of course I checked his assets and stuff.

They're not going to sue a guy that doesn't have any assets.

Right.

But, you know, if you have a house with equity in it, you know, you could probably pay a 70 grand or a hundred grand, you know, or something like that.

Yeah.

But, but also even just with a settlement, take out a mortgage, take out a second mortgage and pay us, or we're going to go for a default.

You know, a lot of times these people don't show up.

You know, you'll get a default judgment.