Matthew Cox

So I'm not doing anything illegal, and I never try to lie to people, but I do try to potentially prime a situation for an outcome.

So influence principles.

So I think that that was an influence situation in which we started off with the right foot.

Ultimately, we spent about 16 hours with him, and he did not want to admit to doing that bad thing.

But my whole goal was try to find the body.

So what he did was he created a fictional third person that he committed the act with.

Whatever his name was.

Hey, Miguel – so I spent four hours with my partner getting every specific thing that Miguel – where he went to school, where he went to here, where he went to this, to where we could prove that Miguel does not exist.

But the whole point is he said me and Miguel did a burglary in which she died.

well if you are committing a felony and someone dies you're going to get charged with murder yeah and in texas you're going to get charged with capital murder right so ultimately he admitted to that but once again our whole goal is to you know get him to um you know ultimately take us to the body so we thought we had it he took us out but all of a sudden he sees about an 18 car motorcade behind us because this was a very high profile case

So once again, this is the metaphor of the kind of Catholic confessional.

Now the shroud is being open and he can see other people judging him.

So he kind of clammed up.

So we go back, we start talking to him again.

We're like, maybe his mom, we can enlist his mom to help us out.

So we go talk to the mom.

The mom wants to talk to him.

We actually take him from the jail to talk to his mom.

He's very upset by this.

What I mean is we had kind of prepped the mom to say, hey, you know what?