Matthew Cox

And I've been blessed to have some amazing advice, you know, from Joe Navarro, Robin Drake, some really good FBI individuals that really helped kind of shape, you know, where the book went.

So I'm really kind of happy with where it landed.

Yeah, so those were – they reviewed the book, and obviously they gave me some nice things on the back cover.

But yeah, I really kind of took a lot of their research and have 250 citations in it.

So I didn't want to make a scientific book, but I'm sure you read a lot of books, especially a lot of nonfiction books, where it's just people –

saying a bunch of stuff and it's not backed by science, right?

Or you read a scientific book where they don't have stories in it.

So what I try to do is I try to take a book that had science, but was interesting.

So we talked about the Chihuahua and the Pit Bull.

We talk about these types of cases.

I really stayed away from the protection angle of it.

Um, cause once again, I don't want to give too much insight and this is not a book about, Hey, the protect these, you know, uh, you know, embarrassing things or secret service, this secret service that it was more just about a 25 year journey on how do you get people open up?

Because my big motto is if you can get people to tell you anything, they'll tell you everything.

So how do you create that environment?

How do you pick the right time, the right place?

How do you get yourself in the right headspace?

But more importantly, how do you get someone like yourself to get in the right headspace?

For me, good communication is like good podcasting in that you let the other person talk about 80% of the time.

You do your research on the front end.

You kind of guide the conversation.