Matthew Dalton

Whether China is reclassified could have financial repercussions around the world. Matthew says this year, the main agenda item at COP is to decide how much money developed countries will contribute after next year.

How do you expect that debate to play out? Like, what are you expecting to see happen in the next few days?

How do you expect that debate to play out? Like, what are you expecting to see happen in the next few days?

How do you expect that debate to play out? Like, what are you expecting to see happen in the next few days?

Why would China resist, though? Like, why would China resist stepping up into its already kind of de facto role as the global leader on climate?

Why would China resist, though? Like, why would China resist stepping up into its already kind of de facto role as the global leader on climate?

Why would China resist, though? Like, why would China resist stepping up into its already kind of de facto role as the global leader on climate?

China has agreed to a provision that would allow developing countries to make financial contributions to a new U.N. fund. But it hasn't made a contribution so far. The country says it will continue to offer assistance to fellow developing countries to the best of its capacity. What strikes you most about the moment that we're in now in the struggle to combat climate change?

China has agreed to a provision that would allow developing countries to make financial contributions to a new U.N. fund. But it hasn't made a contribution so far. The country says it will continue to offer assistance to fellow developing countries to the best of its capacity. What strikes you most about the moment that we're in now in the struggle to combat climate change?

China has agreed to a provision that would allow developing countries to make financial contributions to a new U.N. fund. But it hasn't made a contribution so far. The country says it will continue to offer assistance to fellow developing countries to the best of its capacity. What strikes you most about the moment that we're in now in the struggle to combat climate change?

Sounds like there are still some questions outstanding, some pretty big ones. But Matthew, you sound kind of optimistic, actually, which I don't think I was expecting.

Sounds like there are still some questions outstanding, some pretty big ones. But Matthew, you sound kind of optimistic, actually, which I don't think I was expecting.

Sounds like there are still some questions outstanding, some pretty big ones. But Matthew, you sound kind of optimistic, actually, which I don't think I was expecting.

Well, thank you so much again for taking the time to chat with us. I hope you enjoy COP this year.

Well, thank you so much again for taking the time to chat with us. I hope you enjoy COP this year.

Well, thank you so much again for taking the time to chat with us. I hope you enjoy COP this year.

Well, keep us posted. Send some pictures.

Well, keep us posted. Send some pictures.

Well, keep us posted. Send some pictures.

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