Matthew Desmond
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They need better choice, so they're not accepting the best bad option all the time. So if you think of, like, how are we gonna build worker power in this economy? So now you've got to go to one Amazon warehouse or one Starbucks location at a time, right?
They need better choice, so they're not accepting the best bad option all the time. So if you think of, like, how are we gonna build worker power in this economy? So now you've got to go to one Amazon warehouse or one Starbucks location at a time, right?
Remember when we were losing our minds because one Amazon warehouse in Staten Island maybe organized a few summers ago, and we're like, oh my gosh. But we have no chance of organizing all our warehouse workers or baristas like this. So we have to have different approaches. So the new labor movement is saying, let's organize entire sectors. Let's get everyone in food and hospitality.
Remember when we were losing our minds because one Amazon warehouse in Staten Island maybe organized a few summers ago, and we're like, oh my gosh. But we have no chance of organizing all our warehouse workers or baristas like this. So we have to have different approaches. So the new labor movement is saying, let's organize entire sectors. Let's get everyone in food and hospitality.
If they take a vote, And that could trigger a process where the Secretary of Labor is like, all right, let's bring worker representatives, corporate representatives, let's hash something out that covers every single worker in that sector. So this is what policy wonks call sectoral bargaining. And it's a way to organize all those kind of warehouse workers, all those baristas that want to go.
If they take a vote, And that could trigger a process where the Secretary of Labor is like, all right, let's bring worker representatives, corporate representatives, let's hash something out that covers every single worker in that sector. So this is what policy wonks call sectoral bargaining. And it's a way to organize all those kind of warehouse workers, all those baristas that want to go.
Yeah. Why don't we put workers on corporate boards, for example? Easy.
Yeah. Why don't we put workers on corporate boards, for example? Easy.
And would sectoral bargaining get that done? It could move us closer to something more like a capitalism we deserve, a capitalism that serves the people, not the other way around. And a lot of the times, I think the ideas we have about growth, are just wrong. If you rewind the clock, 1960s, we had a higher corporate tax rate, about 50%. About one in three of us were belonging to a union.
And would sectoral bargaining get that done? It could move us closer to something more like a capitalism we deserve, a capitalism that serves the people, not the other way around. And a lot of the times, I think the ideas we have about growth, are just wrong. If you rewind the clock, 1960s, we had a higher corporate tax rate, about 50%. About one in three of us were belonging to a union.
And we were much more productive as an economy than we are now. And we're kind of fed this lie that we've got to slash these unions, we've got to slash this corporate tax break, and we're going to get the economic growth. And we win in that bargain. And we got the inequality, but we didn't get the growth.
And we were much more productive as an economy than we are now. And we're kind of fed this lie that we've got to slash these unions, we've got to slash this corporate tax break, and we're going to get the economic growth. And we win in that bargain. And we got the inequality, but we didn't get the growth.
Right. Like, could we have a ticker that's about, you know, the number of families that went to a food pantry this month to eat, right? A ticker that's, like, the number of families that lost their homes.
Right. Like, could we have a ticker that's about, you know, the number of families that went to a food pantry this month to eat, right? A ticker that's, like, the number of families that lost their homes.
Like, a ticker about the number of kids that can't afford a winter coat this winter, you know?
Like, a ticker about the number of kids that can't afford a winter coat this winter, you know?
And kind of tracking that as, like, the real, the people's economy.
And kind of tracking that as, like, the real, the people's economy.
I just don't think the left has fully committed to poverty abolitionism. You know? You know, we know where our local organic cucumber came from, you know? But we don't... Wait, we do?
I just don't think the left has fully committed to poverty abolitionism. You know? You know, we know where our local organic cucumber came from, you know? But we don't... Wait, we do?