Matthew Desmond

Do I have to hold it under a blue light? How do we do it? We know. All right. We know. We don't know how much the farmhand got paid picking it. No. You know, if you go to London, you go to the independent stores, they have a sticker on the door, and they say, this store pays a living wage. Now, our stores, we've got a lot of stickers, but we often don't have that one, you know?

Do I have to hold it under a blue light? How do we do it? We know. All right. We know. We don't know how much the farmhand got paid picking it. No. You know, if you go to London, you go to the independent stores, they have a sticker on the door, and they say, this store pays a living wage. Now, our stores, we've got a lot of stickers, but we often don't have that one, you know?

And so I think that more of us have to just commit. You're saying we've got to put up poverty has no home here signs? I think the left needs to get more serious about economic justice. And do you think... So I always worry...

And so I think that more of us have to just commit. You're saying we've got to put up poverty has no home here signs? I think the left needs to get more serious about economic justice. And do you think... So I always worry...

I don't think it's hard. Do they call you? Do they at least ask?

I don't think it's hard. Do they call you? Do they at least ask?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But I think, you know, that we definitely need more political movements. We need new legislation. But we also need more skin in the game, I think, as a country. So, like, let's think about segregation, right? So segregation is upheld by zoning laws. It's upheld by history.

Yeah. Yeah. But I think, you know, that we definitely need more political movements. We need new legislation. But we also need more skin in the game, I think, as a country. So, like, let's think about segregation, right? So segregation is upheld by zoning laws. It's upheld by history.

But it's also upheld, like, at soccer games, you know, where your buddy turns to you and you're like, you know, you saw that building. We're not going to build that thing, right? It's upheld a little. Oh, you mean NIMBY?

But it's also upheld, like, at soccer games, you know, where your buddy turns to you and you're like, you know, you saw that building. We're not going to build that thing, right? It's upheld a little. Oh, you mean NIMBY?

We all want economic justice. Yeah. For those guys over there.

We all want economic justice. Yeah. For those guys over there.

There's huge investments. So look at food stamps, right?

There's huge investments. So look at food stamps, right?

A billion dollars dedicated to food stamps gets you $1.5 billion in our GDP. If you look at what it does for kids, the long-term economic and health benefit for kids, it's a huge return on investment. It's about $1 in food stamps gets you $62 coming back to you in a society. Meanwhile, right, when we cut the corporate tax rate, the benefits we get are a lot less.

A billion dollars dedicated to food stamps gets you $1.5 billion in our GDP. If you look at what it does for kids, the long-term economic and health benefit for kids, it's a huge return on investment. It's about $1 in food stamps gets you $62 coming back to you in a society. Meanwhile, right, when we cut the corporate tax rate, the benefits we get are a lot less.

We get a lot less than we're promised often when we're doing that. So investing in American people and stabilizing communities that need it the most is the best way for all of us.

We get a lot less than we're promised often when we're doing that. So investing in American people and stabilizing communities that need it the most is the best way for all of us.