Matthew Fairburn

We're taking this seriously, because when you preach accountability at the top and you let the general manager who didn't really earn the job keep the job longer than he should have, I think that messes with, you know, the psyche and the culture of your group.

That, you know, he had one year as the senior vice president of business administration.

And look, I mean, he kept getting more and more responsibility from the Pagoulas from the time he started.

You know, he was running the Academy of hockey, which is sort of their youth hockey development program that they started from scratch.

He was sort of the first one to, to head that up.

And then he was taking on more responsibility with the hotel Harbor center here.

You know, that,

the pagoolas built.

And so he's got, you know, some of that for sure.

But I think his ultimate goal was to be on the hockey side of things.

When that happened, I don't, you know, exactly know like when he, you know, kind of pivoted and he saw an opportunity, frankly.

I mean, there's no way around that.

Like Jason Botterill did not want to fire all those people.

that Kevin Adams fired in his first day on the job.

And so he was willing to do what the Pagoulas wanted him to do.

And so I guess it's hard for me to say how good he would be at the business sides of the job.

I'm sure he would be decent at it, but he didn't get a tremendous amount of experience in that role with an NHL team.

You know, a lot of that experience was with different parts of the Pagoulas business and

And he's really done it with one organization here.

So I'm curious, I guess, you know, his hockey resume looks better now than it did when he started, right?