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Matthew Prince

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

What I hope it changes to is,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

is one in which we reward content creators that create content that fills in the holes in that cheese, where they're actually doing things where they're making things better.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And my favorite example of this is, like I flipped a Stockholm, Sweden project

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

in order to meet with Daniel Ek, the founder of Spotify.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

Almost no one in the history of humanity has compensated creators at scale the way Daniel has.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And you might argue that, you know, it's unfair in some ways or that, but the simple facts are that last year, Spotify sent out $10 billion to people who are creating music, which is more than the entire music industry was worth.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

just 20 years ago.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And so like you go up there and I was sitting with him and we had this really interesting conversation.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And one of the things he told me is, you know, when somebody searches for something on Spotify, if you search for like Taylor Swift, shake it off, like they're really certain that they can give you a result.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

But if you search for something that they may not have anything about, like I want a song to a disco beat about how fun it is to dance with my cat.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

doesn't exist, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And they know that it doesn't exist.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

So they try and give you results, but they also know that those results aren't very good.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And so they take those searches that have very bad results and they actually publish it back to music creators.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And there are music creators that are making tens of millions of dollars a year creating music for those things that people were searching for.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And you might think that that's silly, but when you search for something on Spotify, what you're really searching for is an emotion.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

You're searching for something that you want some way to connect with.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And if the answer is that it doesn't exist, and yet some music creator can take that as signal for something that is created and then be compensated for it, I actually think that that's beautiful.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

I think that's filling in the holes in the cheese.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And I think that as we think about what the future business model of the web is, we should be thinking about how can we do more of that?