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Matthew Prince

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

Either you completely exclude all your content from search

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

Or we get to use it for AI, especially the AI overviews that they have.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And that gives them effectively an unfair advantage over every other AI company that's out there.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

If we are able to get them to voluntarily give that away and split those two things apart, say search is different than AI.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

then I think that that will actually unlock every other AI company being willing to pay for content.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

Because now we can actually block Google from using it for AI versus otherwise.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

So that's a place that there might be legislative action.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

Again, I'm hopeful that Google will do the right thing and support the ecosystem before it comes to that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

We've also done things at Cloudflare, because again, one of the things you can do is you don't need legislation.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

You can just have contract.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

So we added a license.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

that basically says that site owners have the right to say how their content is going to be used by robots and that they can opt into search without opting into AI.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And again, that's a contract, which if it's ignored, you know, we can go to court and we can see if it will be will be enforced.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And I think that's right.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And again, the best AI rulings that we've had have said, yeah, actually, AI use is a lot like reading a book.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

With technology, the answer is always yes, it's sort of like that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

The problem becomes it's like reading a book, but at massive scale.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

It's not just about reading one book, it's about reading all the books all at once, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

So it's hard for us to conceive of these things that actually have almost human-like characteristics and qualities, but have machine-like scale and velocity.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And that's I think those are the places where actually it's it becomes very difficult to figure out how to regulate and to legislate.