Matthew Ridge

We might have.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we might have.

But like...

But you've got to kind of do that as well.

Yeah, well, that's what I wanted to ask about.

Hey, guys, we're having a cup of tea.

You know, like, so we had to have a sort of a hook.

Yeah, you know, but, yeah, I think sitting with David, because David's obviously a gay guy, but being, you know, he was straight up until he was 18, 19, right?

So it's okay when you're sitting there with him, but.

How we even got together, I don't know, because I can remember Jamie said to me, oh, look, Dad, I want you to come and meet friends of mine, Jimmy and Ringo, and they live in Monaco and they're married and blah, blah, blah.

And she was like, oh, Dad, Dad, Dad, Dad, Ringo's had a lot of work and he looks a bit different.

And I was like, oh, whatever.

Well, what do you think?

I'm going to, like, pay him out, like, in front of him.

She's like, well, you've done it before, Dad.

But anyway, I met them, and we just got on like a house on fire, and it just so happened that Ringo and I just – we just could talk about anything, you know, and go anywhere, and there was no judgment, which I'd found – I haven't found that in anybody, you know, to be able to, like –

talk really openly about things that are super, like, sensitive or, you know, it could be embarrassing or whatever, people take it the wrong way, right?

And then I just sort of said, I said, you know what, just as a throwaway, we should do a podcast.

And he was like, yeah.