Matthew Ridge

And then he's the one that's picked it up and run with it.

And, yeah, we just, I don't know, but I tell you what, boys, it's a lot of work, eh?

Far out.

The weeks keep coming.

They do.

And Ringo, he does pretty much all the work.

I just turn up and talk, right?

But when you commit to something like this,

You have to commit to it.

But it's been really good for me because it enables you to tell stories.

And that's the way we learn.

That's the thing.

I think we need to be able to share those stories because why do we have to go to a – you know when you go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist and stuff –

It takes them ages to get to know you and, you know, like there's all this money you've got to spend and blah, blah, blah.

Whereas if you can tell a story, right, and, you know, people know me, right, so there's a social contract there, if you know what I mean.

So what I'm saying is I guess a little –

Like, what happened to me was my experience, and it was really real, you know, with my son, with my daughter, you know, like, the stuff that I went through with my daughter was insane, you know, like, and I hope Sally doesn't mind me saying this, but, you know, I always say that it's really important for...

for parents of, when you break up, to not talk badly about the other parent, no matter how shitty they've treated you or whatever's gone on, because the two children that you've had together, right, that's their dad or that's their mum.

You've got to prop them up, no matter how you feel about them, you know, like, because they're the ones that are going to raise these two kids, right?

And if you don't do it properly, then guess what?