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Matthew Schrag

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148 total appearances

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Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

I just want to make it clear that I really disagree strenuously with a lot of the moves being made by the Trump administration regarding science and research.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

I think it's important for universities to have

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

freedom to pursue science and scientific research in a vigorous way without feeling that they have to knuckle under to federal demands for certain kinds of political issues.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

I also disagree with the way in which attacks have been made on federal research funding.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

At the NIH, the administration is not wrong about everything.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

And critics of the scientific enterprise are not wrong that there has been arrogance and complacency.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

And in my view, condescension on the part of many people in the scientific research enterprise towards members of the public.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

Yeah, I mean, trust must be earned.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

Now, let me make it clear that two things can be true at once.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

We can be highly critical of attacks on science and attacks on the scientific enterprise by people who I think are misguided.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

And at the same time, we can insist...

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

that the institutional authorities of science, and by that I mean the gatekeepers of knowledge like the universities and journals like the one I work for, and the funders like the National Institutes of Health and the regulators like FDA, we can insist that they do better at their jobs, that they be more vigilant and more careful, and also be more responsible for protecting scientific knowledge from pollution by bad ideas and corruption.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

So anti-amyloid antibodies, now, there are two approved drugs by the FDA.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

And

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

These are drugs that remove amyloid proteins.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

With regard to how effective the drugs are, I think there's evidence that they can very slightly slow the cognitive decline associated with Alzheimer's disease, although there are many clinicians who say that the degree of slowing compared to people who are not on drugs is so subtle that

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

that it can be imperceptible to clinicians, patients, and family members.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

So no one's getting better with these drugs.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

I don't think that things are mutually exclusive, Stephen.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

What I would say, and contrary to what some critics of my book have described it as, in which I would regard as strawman arguments, I have never said that amyloid proteins have nothing to do with Alzheimer's disease.