Maura Healey

And not only no longer at the table, but will not be supported anywhere along the way. I think unfortunately what's happened in the moment, we've seen a lot of capitulation. We've seen a lot of people trying to hedge their bets. You mean to tell me that's good for America? Come on.

Do you worry about that? I do. I mean, how can you not? The Supreme Court constituted as it is. I mean, how can you not? It seems like anything is possible, is conceivable. Now, you know, it is, again, up to everyone to be able to speak out and articulate why it is so important to hold on to precedent. I thought we'd done that with Roe, right? And look what happened there. So...

Do you worry about that? I do. I mean, how can you not? The Supreme Court constituted as it is. I mean, how can you not? It seems like anything is possible, is conceivable. Now, you know, it is, again, up to everyone to be able to speak out and articulate why it is so important to hold on to precedent. I thought we'd done that with Roe, right? And look what happened there. So...

I guess I'd unpack that a little bit. I think if you look at Roe and the aftermath of Roe, right? What did I do right away as governor? Stockpile Mifepristone, right? We passed a shield law here to protect patients and providers. Other governors took similar actions. We saw races in states change.

I guess I'd unpack that a little bit. I think if you look at Roe and the aftermath of Roe, right? What did I do right away as governor? Stockpile Mifepristone, right? We passed a shield law here to protect patients and providers. Other governors took similar actions. We saw races in states change.

over Roe, over the abortion issue, where abortion rights won time after time after time, where it didn't carry the day or carry the entirety of an election, determinative of an election. The only one was the presidential. And I just think that abortion rights wasn't enough to overcome the

over Roe, over the abortion issue, where abortion rights won time after time after time, where it didn't carry the day or carry the entirety of an election, determinative of an election. The only one was the presidential. And I just think that abortion rights wasn't enough to overcome the

the perception of weak leadership by the Biden administration on immigration, on the economy, and a poor job communicating what had actually been delivered for American people. And also it was in the context of increasing inflation and high costs and a perception that

the perception of weak leadership by the Biden administration on immigration, on the economy, and a poor job communicating what had actually been delivered for American people. And also it was in the context of increasing inflation and high costs and a perception that

The Democratic candidate wasn't empathizing enough and feeling the pain and delivering up a solution, saying X, Y and Z. I'm going to deliver for you. Now, meanwhile, Donald Trump said all these things that he was going to do to lower costs and prices and, of course, hasn't done a goddamn thing. No. Or is he going to?

The Democratic candidate wasn't empathizing enough and feeling the pain and delivering up a solution, saying X, Y and Z. I'm going to deliver for you. Now, meanwhile, Donald Trump said all these things that he was going to do to lower costs and prices and, of course, hasn't done a goddamn thing. No. Or is he going to?

But I don't blame, like, I don't think there was a dissipation in the effect, the after effect of Roe. I think it's there. It's strong. I think it did contribute to more people coming out, even in the presidential. And I think the results in other races have shown what's consistent with the polling, which is the vast majority of Americans, Democrat and Republican, support abortion rights.

But I don't blame, like, I don't think there was a dissipation in the effect, the after effect of Roe. I think it's there. It's strong. I think it did contribute to more people coming out, even in the presidential. And I think the results in other races have shown what's consistent with the polling, which is the vast majority of Americans, Democrat and Republican, support abortion rights.

As to marriage equality, we'll see. You know, it's something that I think has been, at least in Massachusetts, I mean, we've had marriage equality for 20 years now. Many states have had it for some time as well. And the idea that a court overnight would take away that right, take away—remember, these are state marriage licenses.

As to marriage equality, we'll see. You know, it's something that I think has been, at least in Massachusetts, I mean, we've had marriage equality for 20 years now. Many states have had it for some time as well. And the idea that a court overnight would take away that right, take away—remember, these are state marriage licenses.

These aren't federal marriage licenses, which is why I wanted the case to begin with, the DOMA case. You know, it shouldn't happen as a matter of law. But imagine the destruction to families, right? So I hope that doesn't happen.

These aren't federal marriage licenses, which is why I wanted the case to begin with, the DOMA case. You know, it shouldn't happen as a matter of law. But imagine the destruction to families, right? So I hope that doesn't happen.

You know, to me, it's just so sad that we are talking about such an infinitesimal portion of the population. But Trump and the Republicans intentionally made that into a mountain, right? We're talking about such a small sliver of the population. By the way, on athletics, it's even smaller as a percentage, but they did it incredibly well.

You know, to me, it's just so sad that we are talking about such an infinitesimal portion of the population. But Trump and the Republicans intentionally made that into a mountain, right? We're talking about such a small sliver of the population. By the way, on athletics, it's even smaller as a percentage, but they did it incredibly well.

effective job of making that an issue that in immigration i think we're um what i keep on hearing you say is that they've managed i think well i think i think the other thing was the economy at the end of the day i think it's the economy that that ended up uh doing um biden and kamala harris and last question