Max Chandler-Mather

I feel it really in my bones that this is what we need to do.

And, you know, we, as part of the Green Institute's work, we're running this survey of social and economic life where we go and speak to people and we don't try to win their vote, but we just ask them a

And, you know, just as a way of an anecdote to describe this, I door knocked on a pensioner's door.

She used to be a cleaner.

She was in, you know, moderate amounts of financial stress, but most acutely she was worried about her kids.

And she lived in public housing.

She had voted Labor her entire life.

But she said to me in clear eyes and clear voice, I'm never voting Labor again.

I'm thinking about voting for Pauline.

And we talked a lot.

I got along really well with her.

Honestly, I enjoy those conversations more than I've ever really enjoyed any conversation with any politician down at Canberra.

They're just more real people.

And what was remarkable is here's the things she agreed with.

She was like, well, electricity bills are really expensive.

And I was like, do you mind me asking, do you think we should, like, privatization was a mistake, right?

Like, I reckon we should just bring it all back into public hands and run it for people and not for profit.

She's like, yeah, absolutely.

And I said, what about public housing?

You know, you live in public housing.