Max Chandler-Mather

And I think there's a lot of basic things we can do around.

I think collectively, none of us should be flying business class for free.

All of us should be giving up a part of their wage to front field meal programs in our communities.

We should be giving up a lot of the perks that come with being a politician and

And I think we could do that collectively as a party.

And that would be very meaningful for people because that demonstrates, I think, that we're willing to put our money where our mouth is.

So all of those things, I think, would go a long way to helping.

And, you know, there's a lot of Greens MPs across the country who do that.

But I think it's reasonable that I think anyone in the Greens would recognise right now that we could always do better in the context of a collapsing major parties and a surging One Nation.

Well, I think people feel a distinct lack of hope at the moment.

I mean, and you know, it's just genuinely understandable.

Like if you're a millennial, you have experienced, especially over the last 10 years, massive declines in living standards.

Every time house prices go up another percent, that's another loss of hope that you'll ever be able to afford a home.

You now need to earn a six-figure income to afford rent in any capital city across Australia.

let alone think about ever being able to buy a house and what that means for your comfortable retirement or being able to look after your kids.

You're starting to think about starting a family or you have, and you're recognizing that it's almost impossible to make ends meet in those circumstances.

And I think some people will start to feel angry about that and that's entirely justifiable.

And in fact, to be honest, what's remarkable to me actually is how little anger there is compared to just how unfair everything is at the moment.

People are being very reasonable and patient, I would argue.

But then there's a lot of also people who just feel apathetic because for them, and especially for millennials, I always ask this at forums, put up your hands if you've ever felt like you've had collective power over the political system or a sense that your involvement in politics would change anything.