Max Kozlov

Yeah, thousands and thousands across agencies like CDC, NIH, you name it, have been terminated. And some actually were terminated. And I think they realized that their jobs were so important that they've tried to reinstate them in some cases.

Yeah, thousands and thousands across agencies like CDC, NIH, you name it, have been terminated. And some actually were terminated. And I think they realized that their jobs were so important that they've tried to reinstate them in some cases.

I know that a lot of these agencies, I've talked to people who have tried to argue that, you know, we can't fire these people because they're working on trying to stop H5N1 from becoming a pandemic. But a lot of those exemption requests have gone unanswered or gotten denied.

I know that a lot of these agencies, I've talked to people who have tried to argue that, you know, we can't fire these people because they're working on trying to stop H5N1 from becoming a pandemic. But a lot of those exemption requests have gone unanswered or gotten denied.

Yeah, you ask a great question because, like I said, it's been a roller coaster. So pretty early on in the Trump administration, they tried to issue a funding freeze on all federal grants and foreign aid. And, you know, it was such an enormous directive that, you know, everybody was like, what do you mean? Like, it's especially confusing because in the United States, Congress controls...

Yeah, you ask a great question because, like I said, it's been a roller coaster. So pretty early on in the Trump administration, they tried to issue a funding freeze on all federal grants and foreign aid. And, you know, it was such an enormous directive that, you know, everybody was like, what do you mean? Like, it's especially confusing because in the United States, Congress controls...

money, controls, appropriations. They have what's called the power of the purse. So we're talking about funds that have already been set aside to say, yes, this is going to the NIH for them to spend money on clinical trials, to spend money on research. And that's why courts in the United States issued a restraining order, a pause on the pause. You can see how this gets very confusing. Yes. So...

money, controls, appropriations. They have what's called the power of the purse. So we're talking about funds that have already been set aside to say, yes, this is going to the NIH for them to spend money on clinical trials, to spend money on research. And that's why courts in the United States issued a restraining order, a pause on the pause. You can see how this gets very confusing. Yes. So...

But in this case, I know I don't envy people who cover the courts. So technically, any funds, any grants that have already been given out, they should be going to the universities, the institutions, to the researchers again. Is that happening in all cases? Not really.

But in this case, I know I don't envy people who cover the courts. So technically, any funds, any grants that have already been given out, they should be going to the universities, the institutions, to the researchers again. Is that happening in all cases? Not really.

And that's why a federal judge last week was pretty scathing in his remarks and said, look, the Trump administration needs to start funding again, because I was pretty clear in that I issued a pause on the pause. So funding should be going out. But. Importantly, at the NIH, they have a very rigorous way of deciding which grants to fund.

And that's why a federal judge last week was pretty scathing in his remarks and said, look, the Trump administration needs to start funding again, because I was pretty clear in that I issued a pause on the pause. So funding should be going out. But. Importantly, at the NIH, they have a very rigorous way of deciding which grants to fund.

Basically, two separate panels of scientists have to say, yes, this is important research that we should fund. And all of that has been gummed up. Virtually none of those advisory council meetings where grants are... kind of given the stamp of approval to say, yes, let's fund this research have been happening.

Basically, two separate panels of scientists have to say, yes, this is important research that we should fund. And all of that has been gummed up. Virtually none of those advisory council meetings where grants are... kind of given the stamp of approval to say, yes, let's fund this research have been happening.

I mean, it's a slightly more boring thing, but essentially any time they... But it's this boring stuff.

I mean, it's a slightly more boring thing, but essentially any time they... But it's this boring stuff.

Yeah, well, let me tell you, I have a lot to tell you then. So basically there's this whole process. Anytime the government wants to hold a meeting, even if it's a meeting that's not open to the public, they have to basically post a notice to the federal register, basically saying to everybody, we're going to have a meeting. We're going to talk about grants.

Yeah, well, let me tell you, I have a lot to tell you then. So basically there's this whole process. Anytime the government wants to hold a meeting, even if it's a meeting that's not open to the public, they have to basically post a notice to the federal register, basically saying to everybody, we're going to have a meeting. We're going to talk about grants.

And at NIH, those federal register notices are not allowed to be posted right now.

And at NIH, those federal register notices are not allowed to be posted right now.