Max Kozlov

Yeah. And, you know, it's one thing for these meetings to not happen for a week or two weeks. But now that we're getting near the one month mark and then, you know, the longer that this happens, you know, the longer that researchers who submitted grants months ago wait to see if their projects even get funded.

Yeah. And, you know, it's one thing for these meetings to not happen for a week or two weeks. But now that we're getting near the one month mark and then, you know, the longer that this happens, you know, the longer that researchers who submitted grants months ago wait to see if their projects even get funded.

Yes, exactly. And I was talking with the former NIH director, Harold Varmus, today, and he was wondering why industry, why pharma, why biotech hasn't been screaming, saying these changes are really bad because they're going to hurt industry, they're going to hurt the economy, and they're going to hurt people ultimately. Again, this culture of fear is very real.

Yes, exactly. And I was talking with the former NIH director, Harold Varmus, today, and he was wondering why industry, why pharma, why biotech hasn't been screaming, saying these changes are really bad because they're going to hurt industry, they're going to hurt the economy, and they're going to hurt people ultimately. Again, this culture of fear is very real.

Nobody wants to draw a target to their back because they're worried that the administration, they've shown that they're interested in retribution, that they might be targeted next.

Nobody wants to draw a target to their back because they're worried that the administration, they've shown that they're interested in retribution, that they might be targeted next.

Basically, NSF staff are going through all of the existing grants and looking for examples of these words being used. They're scouring tens of thousands of grants, and it's still unclear exactly what they want to do with them. Proposed actions were either modifying the grants so that these words are removed, or potentially in some cases, maybe if they have many of these different flags

Basically, NSF staff are going through all of the existing grants and looking for examples of these words being used. They're scouring tens of thousands of grants, and it's still unclear exactly what they want to do with them. Proposed actions were either modifying the grants so that these words are removed, or potentially in some cases, maybe if they have many of these different flags

archiving or removing the funding altogether. It's still unclear. But just to say that even while that is happening, while the lawsuit keeps going on, the NSF staff are still kind of combing through the grants in preparation for the next step for whatever it is on this crusade to get rid of gender ideology terms. But

archiving or removing the funding altogether. It's still unclear. But just to say that even while that is happening, while the lawsuit keeps going on, the NSF staff are still kind of combing through the grants in preparation for the next step for whatever it is on this crusade to get rid of gender ideology terms. But

I also want to push back on the idea, like you mentioned, that these are in some way promoting what they call woke gender ideology. You know, I talked with a researcher who works on women's health issues, and she was very frustrated that women's health was being equated with gender ideology because it is not gender ideology to study things like endometriosis or menstruation.

I also want to push back on the idea, like you mentioned, that these are in some way promoting what they call woke gender ideology. You know, I talked with a researcher who works on women's health issues, and she was very frustrated that women's health was being equated with gender ideology because it is not gender ideology to study things like endometriosis or menstruation.

And that was already... It was a huge hurdle to get funding for those kinds of projects in previous administrations, let alone now. And we're talking again about the lives of millions and billions of women around the world here.

And that was already... It was a huge hurdle to get funding for those kinds of projects in previous administrations, let alone now. And we're talking again about the lives of millions and billions of women around the world here.

Yeah, and that's exactly what I've been hearing. I've been hearing from just so many postdocs who are like, shoot, I used one of these words in my grant application. They don't know what's next for them. And in some cases, they had their funding pulled in this whole roller coaster. So just everybody just has no idea what's coming next.

Yeah, and that's exactly what I've been hearing. I've been hearing from just so many postdocs who are like, shoot, I used one of these words in my grant application. They don't know what's next for them. And in some cases, they had their funding pulled in this whole roller coaster. So just everybody just has no idea what's coming next.

I know.

I know.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.